He knows it is unlikely to flip the result of the 2020 presidential election, but Wisconsin U.S. Senator Ron Johnson says Wednesday’s hearing was more about future voting practices. The Wisconsin Republican held the hearing as the chairperson of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee to address what he has called irregularities in the election, which include lax enforcement of laws, fraudulent votes, and corruption of voting machines. Former election security official Christopher Krebs disputed it during the hearing according to Politico, telling the committee the claims are “corrosive to the institutions that support elections.” Johnson says for four years Democrats were convinced Russians were to blame for voting intervention efforts that led to the election of President Donald Trump. Four years later, it is Republicans calling foul. He believes Americans need to be able to trust their elections.

Johnson is against the federal government taking over elections, but believes national standards could be used to restore trust in the process.

He added that a paper trail should exist for every ballot and there should be increased transparency for election results. Johnson believes the lack of transparency is leading to many of the lawsuits challenging the election results to be thrown out because the litigants do not have enough standing to bring the case forward.